Episode Transcript
Don Mock 0:20
Alright, Episode 116 We’re back, Rob,
Rob Broadfoot 0:23
116 Yeah,
Don Mock 0:24
do we ever change the opening theme song? Is that ever gonna happen in the future? Are we just gonna roll with that spy sort of vibe forever?
Rob Broadfoot 0:31
It’s got to spy versus spy vibe.
Don Mock 0:35
Do they still publish, Mad. I should know this. They do publish Mad Magazine. I don’t know. Oh yeah, the A B
Rob Broadfoot 0:43
That magazine was great.
Don Mock 0:48
how they made that folding thing work. I would absolutely study that all the time it was great.
Rob Broadfoot 0:52
I remember. Here’s What I remember about Mad Magazine. I remember of course, Alfred E. Neuman I remember spy versus spy. And I remember the folding back cover. I don’t remember What else was in between the pages.
Don Mock 1:03
a lot of parodies of TV shows and movies. So like whatever they
Rob Broadfoot 1:08
were they cartoons?
Don Mock 1:10
Yeah, it was all illustrated. Lots of Jack Davis illustration and mad and cracked, classic cracked. Oh, that’s right. Cracked was awesome. Cracked was even funnier.
Rob Broadfoot 1:20
Cracked was cracked a byproduct of bad it was yeah, it
Don Mock 1:25
was it was an offshoot of some sort, you know? But it would be like, Oh, if they would do kind of the PG version of the National Lampoon of like, whatever the day’s flavor was so so like, we would be like, Oh, Raiders Lost Ark was the was the biggest movie. And then they do like Raiders of the Lost fart or something like childish. And then it would be like five or six pages of, you know, like retelling of the story, but from some silly and it was all caricatures of like Indiana Jones, but he’s like tooting or some I just totally made that up. Yeah,
Rob Broadfoot 1:56
I get you. I think you could probably argue that. That was a big and Mad Magazine was probably a huge inspiration for Garbage Pail Kids. Yeah, a direct descendant there might be I don’t I’m
Don Mock 2:07
not smart enough or educated enough to say that but yeah, it feels that Garbage Pail Kids are still going on. I mean, you go in there’s there’s probably some valuable Yeah, well, Here’s a little I’m ashamed to put this on the internet, but I’m gonna put it out there right now. I found my box of old Garbage Pail Kids sticker stickers yesterday, and Kirby was going through him and I’m like,
Rob Broadfoot 2:26
They are awesome.
Don Mock 2:27
And I’m like, Wait, I’ve got a huge box, dude. Huge box. Yeah. And I’m like, wait a minute. Are these things worth any money? So I’m looking on eBay. And it’s like, okay, yeah, I mean, people will pay What they’re gonna pay or whatever that so I’m like, okay, so I found the Garbage Pail Kids collector fan site thing whatever, which helped me figure out What series What set What index you know, the publishing things based
Rob Broadfoot 2:47
who made them?
Don Mock 2:48
tops.
Rob Broadfoot 2:48
Tops did okay, tops did
Don Mock 2:51
Okay. Tops. Because it came with gum. So it had the flat sick. Yeah, exactly.
Rob Broadfoot 2:58
Disgusting.
Don Mock 2:59
Yeah, horrible gum, which ruin the cards. Of course, people think that keeping the packet sealed, you know, it’d be like collectible or whatever. But What happens is it the gum destroys so if you actually had a card, the gum destroyed it, right. So anyway, so I saw I logged on or I didn’t log I found this website. I tried to index then I joined like a Garbage Pail Kids Facebook marketplace group to like, let me offload some of these. Yeah, you know What I mean? Like, let’s save on the eBay fees. horrible failure. I did not. I think I listed one thing as little Chum the water, you know? Yeah. And it was like, you know, oh my god, I
Rob Broadfoot 3:33
was like, trash can. Tommy,
Don Mock 3:35
I got to take him to school on like, you know, comments about
Rob Broadfoot 3:39
you don’t belong. This is this is
Don Mock 3:41
well, I don’t know about that. But just like, oh, you know, this card is not that desirable, or this or that or, but you know What, I think I asked a couple of questions. And it was like, Alright, dude, like, I’m out. This is ridiculous. That being said, I’m still a member of the group. Well, I would imagine himself, but I would imagine
Rob Broadfoot 3:56
like anything else that it’s Oh, there’s the rare.
Don Mock 3:59
Yeah, you know, atom bomb. That is classic one, a little boy who has the Atari joystick and he’s pushing the button on his head is a nuclear explosion that I remember that still is the number one call it like, that’s the the well known one, right? There are some others like even
Rob Broadfoot 4:14
that one’s not that valuable.
Don Mock 4:15
No, I mean, dude, you can I mean, that could be $800 card, but
Rob Broadfoot 4:18
I mean that that’s not like a Honus Wagner
Don Mock 4:20
No, no, no.
Rob Broadfoot 4:21
I mean, I mean, they made a ton of that one. Yeah. Because it was the first because they went alphabetical? There’s a whole
Don Mock 4:28
What do you mean?
Rob Broadfoot 4:28
Wasn’t there like atomic adam and then a B, and then yeah. whatever. I’m sure they went alphabetical.
Don Mock 4:34
Here’s What they did do that, which was interesting and smart branding. They’d have the same illustration. Okay. Yeah. And then there would be two versions of every single illustration. So it would be like a, I think it’s atom bomb and blasted Billy. And then up in the top right corner, it would be one A and one B. So every illustration got to like got two cards out of it right to name so if you only had 50 cards, it really was you had to collect all one 100 Because you had to get every derivative, right? And the reason why that first series obviously is collectibles, because yeah, you’re right. They’re all stickers. And we all stuck up. You know, nobody kept the card, right? You know, that type of thing. But dude, you can still buy them. They’re still making them, they’re still.
Rob Broadfoot 4:37
They’re still printing wow
Don Mock 4:51
and just like how baseball cards have like Chromium editions and all this crazy. Garbage Pail Kids are still the same, dude. I mean, you know, nostalgia man, it’s the 30 year loop, right? I mean, the 80s and 90s are gigantic. Right.
Rob Broadfoot 5:26
Speaking of things that blew up into pop culture. Yeah. Hit me. That’s our segue.
Don Mock 5:32
Oh, yeah. That is our segue. Well played. Yeah. Done. Let me take a sip of water out of this gigantic cup that was given to me by one of our clients.
Rob Broadfoot 5:40
Stanley Cup, that was given to you. So we thought today we might talk about things that dare I say explode into the zeitgeist?
Don Mock 5:50
Dare I say, My God, you’re bringing about thunder?
Rob Broadfoot 5:53
So one of the things that the internet has done is allowed things to catch fire, right and be propelled into the vernacular or or just sort of
Don Mock 6:05
going viral
Rob Broadfoot 6:06
social sphere going viral? Yeah. going viral?
Don Mock 6:09
A little bit easier, I think. Yeah. Then like
Rob Broadfoot 6:09
and it’s random things that you could never oftentimes could never really predict. Like, when we were kids, right? The analog version would have been the pet rock.
Don Mock 6:23
Yeah. Okay.
Rob Broadfoot 6:24
Right. I mean, it was like all of a sudden, there was a pet rock, and somebody came up with this thing. And it had a little popsicle stick with the little leg of the rock.
Don Mock 6:30
I never had one
Rob Broadfoot 6:31
you never had one? There was a pet rock. And then there was the rock concert. And then there was all kinds of derivatives of the pet rock hilarious. But now the internet of course, has allowed things to catch sort of fire and I, I were talking about it only because I read an interesting article today. So I’m headed up this weekend to visit my daughter who’s a freshman up at Appalachian State up in Boone. And so the Stanley Cup not the hockey version
Don Mock 7:00
not to be confused with the most amazing trophy in sports
Rob Broadfoot 7:02
not to be confused with the Stanley Cup. Yeah, but the mugs that are so popular among Dare I say mostly females.
Don Mock 7:09
Is it? Ok I didn’t know that
Rob Broadfoot 7:10
Yeah. Okay. And so a little bit of history on that and how it sort of exploded into popular culture where where it now resides. So I guess the company and I just learned all this today reading this article, but I guess the company has been around for like, 100 years, right? A little over 100 years or something. And when the cups were first made, they were marketed towards outdoorsman, okay. And blue collar workers. So but it was very male dominated,
Don Mock 7:40
like a yeti
Rob Broadfoot 7:41
kind of like a Yeti. Yeah, forever ago. And then they stopped, sales declined, whatever, and then they stopped producing them. Again, people are gonna fact check me.
Don Mock 7:53
That’s okay. It’s the internet. Who cares?
Rob Broadfoot 7:54
Yeah. But they stopped producing them manufacturing them in I think it was 2015 2015 or 2016. All right. And so the company was kind of kind of chugging along, chugging along. And then there was a there were some bloggers and they were women. It was women bloggers. And it was basically I forget the name of the blog, but it was a very popular one that was like, oh, things we love. And they just so happened that these women who ran this blog loved these mugs. Stanley mugs.
Don Mock 8:27
And it’s the with the lid and the straw
Rob Broadfoot 8:29
with the lid and straw. And it’s this ginormous, you know, a big gulp size, It’s gotta be 20 ounces.
Don Mock 8:37
That’s got to be more than 20 ounces. I’m looking at the bottom of it right now. But it’s full.
Rob Broadfoot 8:41
but surely you all have seen this thing. It’s big up top, but it’s but it’s manufactured so that it fits in a cup holder right at the bottom. And so that’s part of the reason that they loved it was because oh my gosh,
Don Mock 8:52
this is the 40 ounces of water
Rob Broadfoot 8:55
is huge. So we got you know, we’re busy moms are running around, we got kids, but we can hold this thing. We can carry it anyway. For whatever reason. They loved their Stanley’s Yeah. And so they started as the more and more they talked about it on their blog, they started to realize that their fans, again, mostly female audience loved the mugs. Yeah. And started asking about where they could get them and where they get to where they can get them. Well. These women decided to pull together all their money and buy 5000 Stanley mugs a wholesale
Don Mock 9:30
Oh, interesting. Okay.
Rob Broadfoot 9:31
Yeah. So they buy the 5000. Yeah, they go back on their blog. And they sell it. Yeah. And they sell out like that. 5000 of them. So then they buy another 5000 and the second round sold in like a week or something or maybe it was a day. I mean, it’s something ridiculous.
Don Mock 9:49
Yeah, it was like hey, we got the mugs back and then boom, they’re all sold
Rob Broadfoot 9:52
then boom, they all sold out. So these women went and said, Hey, we need to we need to contact Somebody at Stanley and figure out a deal and do it. Tell them about this. So they got in contact with a woman who was the head of sales at Stanley. And it just so happens she was an upstate graduate
Don Mock 10:14
Oh my lord
Rob Broadfoot 10:15
which is how why I came across this article. So upstate graduate and I should know her name. I didn’t write it down. Apologies, but I think Solomon was her last name. Okay, maybe Laura Solomon somebody fact check me. So they got in touch with her. And she studied Marketing at Upstate. And so they sort of formed a great relationship with her and she was all on board. Well, problem was Stanley had been run by a bunch of bunch of old dudes for so long. And so she had to as the head of sales, had to basically over time convinced them to completely change
Don Mock 10:53
the internal lobbying, right?
Rob Broadfoot 10:55
Everything Yeah, like, Okay, we’re going to target we’re gonna go after women now. We’re going to go pure influencer marketing strategy, All of these things that were very non traditional for the company. Yeah. And I guess the long story short is over time, she finally after all, the lobbying got him to sign off on it And the numbers are insane. And it blew up and it blew up, in part because they totally pivoted as an entire company, and targeted women and all through influencer marketing. And so they’re saying, I mean, you can go look up the figures, but I mean, astronomical profit.
Don Mock 11:33
I did not read this article. You did, for me it was the viral video of the car fire is where I kind of became familiar with mug and I think it was through one of our advertising sort of blogs or news sites or news feeds whatever about the woman’s car who burned. You know, like, I don’t know if it was, I don’t
Rob Broadfoot 11:55
I don’t know. I don’t think I’ve seen it.
Don Mock 11:58
Well, we’ll have to add we’ll have to tag it to this post. Michael, are you listening? Tag it to the post. There’s a woman’s car burned down. Okay. Like, I don’t know if it was electrical, fire engine fire or whatever. But the whole car, totally done. Okay. There’s like, a tik tok video or whatever the deal is of woman like, Oh my God, my car is destroyed. She opens the door. She reaches in she grabs her Stanley and shakes it. And the ice it’s still in there.
Rob Broadfoot 12:25
Now. It’s just fabricated? We don’t know.
Don Mock 12:28
I don’t know. Right. But it’s like that video went bananas. Everyone’s like, Holy Toledo like Whatever. And then come to find out like a week later. The president of Stanley puts out a tik tok and it’s like, Hey, we’ve never done this in the history of our company. But I don’t remember the Woman’s name but its like hey lovely lady, like, you know, because of your video and because of blew up so much, and we appreciate you. Like, we’re gonna buy you a new car. Like,
Rob Broadfoot 12:53
yeah, you get the new car.
Don Mock 12:54
You got a new car.
Rob Broadfoot 12:55
Which is because it’s the PR moment.
Don Mock 12:57
Yeah, exactly. And I don’t remember anybody’s name in this section. Yeah. And this was however many months ago or whatever. But that’s when it kind of came to my consciousness. Because again, I don’t, I don’t really care of I don’t need more mugs in my life.
Rob Broadfoot 13:08
Oh, my God, we have too many.
Don Mock 13:09
Yeah. And I’m the weirdo that you’ll notice. I never use the lid or the straw. I’m not. I’m a total stranger. And I don’t like straws. I like to just drink like a normal person with my lips. I’m not a straw user for the most part.
Rob Broadfoot 13:23
Well, I found out about them. From my from my daughter’s, they just showed up at my house, these big giant and I was like, What, why do we have these giant cups and they’re, well, dad, they’re Stanley’s
Don Mock 13:36
Do we even know What these costs? I’m totally uneducated on us.
Rob Broadfoot 13:40
I have no idea. Probably more than I’d like to spend on a mug
Don Mock 13:44
Yeah, well, and you’ve got a couple
Rob Broadfoot 13:45
Oh, we got a few. We have we have ones that they’ve purchased. But now also to I mean, as corporate gifts. I mean, yeah, that one’s a corp. gift
Don Mock 13:52
this a corporate gift from one of our clients and funny enough, even though we designed this logo, and I’ve worked with these guys for almost 15 full years this is literally the first piece of branded merchandise that we have ever gotten you know, and I see all these guys with their vest like, Hey, nice shirt you got there, buddy.
Rob Broadfoot 14:13
So that’s a very functional one
Don Mock 14:15
think. Yeah, I think I was given somebody grief on one of the calls. And I think they’re like, Alright, shipping, shipping the Stanley or whatever, which is, which is a great gift. I appreciate it. So thanks.
Rob Broadfoot 14:24
We got a couple of this corporate ones from my wife’s company at the house.
Don Mock 14:27
Yeah, it’s pretty funny.
Rob Broadfoot 14:28
But yes, the last thing we need is another giant cup. And I always give my kids hack. I’m like, how no one needs a cup. Like What are you gonna do with that?
Don Mock 14:35
40 ounces it’s a big gulp.
Rob Broadfoot 14:37
Dude, they all the kids it’s I mean, everybody has it it’s absolutely insane.
Don Mock 14:41
well today’s topic is kind of how things catch fire and what’s interesting is the story you said about really What I hone in on is the pivot is hey, we’ve been doing things one way for a long time and then you know, we hire good people we trust in them even though I’m sure it’s I’m very grossly simplifying it you know, internal lobbying or whatever and then as a pivot, you know, it kind of reminds me of the pivot. I mean, I’m dating myself here, but pivot with hushpuppies. I want to say like back in the 90s or something like yeah, late 90s. Remember Hushpuppies that brand was dead as a door
Rob Broadfoot 15:13
no one wanted to wear hushpuppy
Don Mock 15:14
and we’re talking the shoes. They’re like a two tone kind of funky looking shoes. Right?
Rob Broadfoot 15:19
Not an attractive shoe
Don Mock 15:20
not attractive shoe. And then I think it kind of tied in with that weird Zoot Suit swing like
Rob Broadfoot 15:26
the cherry poppin daddies?
Don Mock 15:28
Yeah, that whole thing everything that sort of came back around, and that was swingers the movie, you know, that whole swingers was, you know, and then all of a sudden, it was like hipsters, you know, or like, whatever the definition of hipster was at that time.
Rob Broadfoot 15:41
Look at these beautiful babies.
Don Mock 15:42
Yeah. Like, like, suddenly we’re rockin hushpuppy Yes. And then it became like, it was like, boom, we can’t make them fast enough. Yeah, you know, that whole thing? Right? It’s, it’s tough to be a manufacturing, you know, because it’s inventory control seasons offshore manufacturing 90 days on a boat, maybe, you know, I mean, you never know when the season is going to hit
Rob Broadfoot 16:03
and demand can kill a company very, very quickly. Yeah. If you can’t if you can’t keep up and scale appropriately.
Don Mock 16:10
I mean, the most famous one for us as kids was the Cabbage Patch Kids, right? Yes. Speaking of here in Georgia, right. Isn’t it somewhere here
Rob Broadfoot 16:10
because the hospital was here?
Don Mock 16:12
Yeah. The cabbage patch hospital. Were all babies.
Rob Broadfoot 16:22
Did you go?
Don Mock 16:22
I’ve never. I’ve never been. I’ve never been the closest I’ve ever been to something like that was I went to the American girls.
Rob Broadfoot 16:29
Oh, maybe that’s what it was Maybe that’s
Don Mock 16:33
there was a party that yeah, there was a party for one of my children or we attended one of the one of the parties, you know, and it’s the
Rob Broadfoot 16:39
that’s where I had my 50th birthday. Is that awkward?
Don Mock 16:43
No, because they do they remember they repair the hair. That’s the whole thing is like, if you cut your doll’s hair, like they can get they can bring the hair back. So yeah,
Rob Broadfoot 16:53
can they bring my hair back?
Don Mock 16:54
That’s What I was saying. You’re probably there for the hair transplant. Yeah, that thing’s still going. I mean, those are expensive American dolls
Rob Broadfoot 17:03
I had two sisters growing up and they had to have their they had to have their dolls.
Don Mock 17:07
Yeah, but but hush puppies. Yeah, was an interesting one of sort of like a brand that caught fire out of nowhere and I’m gonna call that relatively pre internet. It wasn’t like, Oh, I’m going on and
Rob Broadfoot 17:18
that was 90
Don Mock 17:18
shoe store. I’m not going out with Zappos. I’m not going on anything. And but you know, it’s like I had to find you had to go out and find those things. Yeah, you had to beat the street to find it right? Yep. But inventory control. There’s tons of stories of that of lack and whatever the hot toy, you know, Furbies or cabbage patch or remember those Tamagotchi’s the little electronic? Take care of your pets?
Oh well, I didn’t know that’s What they were called but I do remember the pet
the Tamagotchi. Yeah. And it’s like, well, why was that weird Little Japanese digital Oh, I gotta feed my Tamagotchi. You know, it’s time to water my cat you know, like, or I gotta,
Rob Broadfoot 17:59
could they pass away? If you didn’t take care of them?
Don Mock 18:01
yes if you didn’t take care of them? I’m pretty sure that died. little responsibility for
Rob Broadfoot 18:08
Could you resuscitate them or the device goes dead?
Don Mock 18:11
I mean, it. It smokes. that would have been cool
Rob Broadfoot 18:15
That would have been awesome.
Don Mock 18:16
No. I’m pretty sure it’s just start over again.
Rob Broadfoot 18:20
I think it needs to. I think it needs to smoke and blow up.
Don Mock 18:23
Little little more Mission Impossible. Yeah. Well, that was our fun.
Rob Broadfoot 18:26
Yeah You failed your mission.
Don Mock 18:28
So yeah, well, it’s it. You know, it’s why did things catch fire? Yeah. Why are things popular? You know, and
Rob Broadfoot 18:35
hard to predict. And can you predict it?
Don Mock 18:37
Yeah, I mean, we’ve talked about music a lot on previous podcasts. There’s something there too, right? Like, how is that one song suddenly, boom, that’s the one
Rob Broadfoot 18:46
well I remember, you know, back in, you know, years ago, when the term sort of viral video was was a thing, right? And when that first sort of became entered the vernacular viral
Don Mock 19:00
when did that start?
Rob Broadfoot 19:01
I mean, anyway, I remember forever and we had clients that did this to us would come to us and go hey, we want to make a we want to go viral. We want to make a viral video we want a viral video and we would have to explain to them well well you you can’t
Don Mock 19:20
that’s not how it works.
Rob Broadfoot 19:21
That’s not how it works. You can’t you can make videos in the hopes that they go viral. Yeah, and you can make them and you can seed them out right to influencers and things and you can plant all the seeds for something to go viral
Don Mock 19:35
back in the day though, there were no influencers.
Rob Broadfoot 19:37
But you can’t Make it go viral that’s not something you could do because again If you could Everyone would do it.
Don Mock 19:44
public is fickle. You can do all the right things and say all the right things and and, you know, yeah, do everything correctly and get them right there. And sometimes they still won’t flip the switch, you know, and
Rob Broadfoot 19:57
then the problem with that is once something does go viral, or take off as a product like the Stanley the inevitable fall is Coming. It’s just a matter of when
Don Mock 20:10
you can’t maintain it.
Rob Broadfoot 20:11
When does it fall off? Yeah. How do you handle it?
Don Mock 20:13
We had a, you know, I mean, just What was it? Probably two years ago now. I mean, we had a client, we were running all the social for and it was boom, we had the multimillion dollar multi million dollar, we had the multi million view post,
Rob Broadfoot 20:26
which one was this?
Don Mock 20:27
This was ACF were right and a lot of foodstuff. And it was oh, wow, that like, and then you know, hey, that month’s reporting was incredible, right? I mean, we’re on the phone with a client. Right? I mean, the bar chart is out of control. Exposure, this guy was like Alright guys, just to manage expectations. That’s not going to happen. Next time there will be a precipitous fall. Right. You know, right. That type of thing. Right. So yeah, but when you when you said, we have clients that come to us and say we want to via video, you know What I’m thinking of? Right? I mean, we got to be careful with
Rob Broadfoot 20:59
I know exactly a certain Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And
Don Mock 21:03
well, the was a great project did a bunch of great filming did a bunch of great ideas. I still and it’s funny, we used an early Hollywood actor that I still see in commercials,
Rob Broadfoot 21:17
a very unique look,
Don Mock 21:18
I still see in bit roles, and I always get a kick out like, oh my god, we totally shot with that guy. Oh, you know, super nice guy, some of that. But the kicker we don’t have to go into What the project was or who the client was or What why, you know, whatever. The kicker was, if you recall, and I just want to see your face on this one. It was guys, we can’t use Facebook. Remember that?
Rob Broadfoot 21:39
Oh Yeah. Yeah,
Don Mock 21:41
it was we can’t use Facebook and now Instagram, I don’t even think existed yet. There was no Instagram there. Probably.
Rob Broadfoot 21:47
I’m trying to think what year this was I mean, it’s 2013, nine years ago?
Don Mock 21:56
No I mean, Instagram has been around for more than nine years.
Rob Broadfoot 21:59
I mean, you think it was earlier?
Don Mock 22:00
I think was earlier in the day. Yeah, it was it was it was nine or 10. Yeah, it was nine or 10. We can go back and double check. I mean, again,
Rob Broadfoot 22:08
we need to create videos that we want to go viral. But oh, by the way, in 2009 We can’t use facebook
Don Mock 22:16
can’t put it on Facebook, you know, because we’re scared about What if somebody posts something about the video? What if there’s a negative comment and it was like you can’t control the internet? Like I don’t like it. So it’s it’s it’s it’s an ocean, you know, like, you can’t you can’t fight the waves. So Right. That was the greatest kicker that you know, we’re like three fourths of the way through this project.
Rob Broadfoot 22:39
Yeah, shooting these ridiculous video over the top. Fun
Don Mock 22:44
Super quirky fun
Rob Broadfoot 22:45
over the top videos. Yeah, out in California.
Don Mock 22:47
I still love that one. I still love the one that we’re talking about. I think it’s a fun video. I think. I think it’s great. It’s silly. It’s fun. It’s it still holds up. It’s timeless, you know? But then all of a sudden, boom, we can’t use facebook
Rob Broadfoot 22:59
They didn’t go viral. Yeah.
Don Mock 23:02
Great content, but I don’t know that they What they ever did with it. And yeah, I mean, Facebook, still to this day is 77% of all social referral traffic. I mean, so but back then it was probably even bigger. I mean, because MySpace, let me put it this way. MySpace was still a thing. Yeah, I’m pretty sure. I’m pretty sure so. All right. Anyway, that’s a fun little anecdote to end today. Alright where can everybody can find our viral videos, Rob?
Rob Broadfoot 23:26
on the internet on the world wide web www.mocktheagency.com And of course, you can track us down on the socials @mocktheagency and feel free to drop us a line about What you think is the next thing that’s going to blow up. Yeah, What is it? Who’s got it?
Don Mock 23:41
And fact check us. Yeah, for sure. All right. Thanks everybody.
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