Episode Transcript
Don Mock 0:21
Episode 51. We’re back, and we’re back with Cuyler. Mr. C. Welcome back, buddy.
Cuyler 0:26
Thank you.
Don Mock 0:27
We were just literally in the other room, shooting the bull, as we’re known to do, from time to time, and said, “Dude, this is a podcast.” So in case you’re wondering what we’re talking about, we’re talking about the Atlanta Braves. They just announced their new alternate uniform. We love sports here in the office, big sports guys, right? We were talking about hey, “oh, they’re mixing the old with the new” and all this good stuff. I was like, “Hey, dude, let’s do a quick little little rundown on sports logos.” But man, we got a lot of sports leagues. All sorts of stuff. So we thought, “hey, why don’t we just jump on the pod real quick, and do a quick little 15 minutes on major league baseball sports logos?”
Cuyler 1:09
Baseball’s coming right up. April’s almost here. Hats, unis. You know?
Don Mock 1:14
Yeah. At the time we’re recording it, I guess we’re at the end of spring training, getting ready for the season. Right? Starts in a week or so?
Cuyler 1:21
Yeah, yeah. I think it’s right around masters weekend. we get Braves and Augusta. Exciting times here in Georgia.
Don Mock 1:30
I know, for sure. So, ready, go.
Cuyler 1:37
The Braves launched a new uniform, which I’m assuming it’s an alternate that I mean, that’s not gonna be the primary uniform. It’s kind of an homage to the 60s and 70s Hank Aaron era. Retro, royal blue, red accents, predominantly white. But, instead of using the lowercase script, it’s the traditional uppercase scripting that we have on our uniform.
Don Mock 2:08
Yeah. So it’s a cool blend of old and new, which is cool. How do you feel about it? I like it. I think it’s cool.
Cuyler 2:14
Yeah. You know, we were talking, maybe the hat could use some… the way that they colored the panels of the hat is slightly odd.
Don Mock 2:23
They’re breaking the color not where the seams of the material breaks.
Cuyler 2:27
Where the panels are.
Don Mock 2:27
In a traditional sense. I think even when you’re designing a logo, like, it’s hard to sometimes utilize it in a vacuum. You know what I mean? And see it in a vacuum. It’s like, “Hey, I gotta see it on TV. I gotta see it on a jersey.”
Cuyler 2:31
You gotta see a hat on someone’s head.
Don Mock 2:43
Yeah, exactly.
Cuyler 2:44
That kind of makes an odd shape.
Don Mock 2:45
Exactly. Exactly. So let’s talk about the rest of the league, though. We’re talking about Atlanta, of course. Off the top of your head, do you have any exciting baseball logos that you’ve always loved? Or you’ve always hated? What’s your thoughts there?
Cuyler 2:59
So the traditional letter marks I’ve always been to me your quintessential baseball logo.
Don Mock 3:06
Totally.
Cuyler 3:07
Whether it’s the Yankees, the Dodgers or your team, the Giants. The Giants have one of the best ones.
Don Mock 3:14
I do love the SF.
Cuyler 3:15
I’ve always been a little jealous of the black and orange. I think it’s a good looking-
Don Mock 3:18
Fantastic color scheme. Yeah. Yeah.
Cuyler 3:20
So I am a bit of a traditionalist. I do like the classic ones, and the ones that have probably changed the least. Which is usually indicative that they were successful designs.
Don Mock 3:32
Totally.
Cuyler 3:34
The Willie Mays era Giants.
Don Mock 3:38
So sweet.
Cuyler 3:38
More or less the same uniform. It hasn’t really changed.
Don Mock 3:42
Yeah, so we had the old ones where it was a gothic Giants typography. Then in the 80s, and then part of the 90s, they went to that all caps, but very friendly, big G. It went across the front of the chest. The hats have always been the same. Then they went back to the hard edge Gothic type, right? Which fits in really well with the Boston Red Sox and all those kind of quirky, weird, old Gothic kind of typefaces, which is nice. Baseball for me… I made a couple of notes as I was waiting to get going here… there’s kind of two schools of thought with baseball. It’s interesting because it’s been around. I think the Braves actually are the longest operating professional baseball team. The late 1800s.
Cuyler 4:24
The Boston Braves.
Don Mock 4:27
We’ve had baseball teams for ever. I agree with you, in terms of the typography of baseball. You kind of have two schools of camp for baseball teams. You have the letters and the ligatures, specifically ligature. You’ve got the SF together, you’ve got the NY together, both of the Mets and for the Yankees.
Cuyler 4:47
San Diego does it too, right?
Don Mock 4:48
Yeah, SD. St. Louis, I would argue is a great STL.
Cuyler 4:53
They weave three in there. It looks really good.
Don Mock 4:55
Exactly. You’ve got some epic failures, I would say. Like the Colorado Rockies, CR.. and this is tough because we’re obviously on a podcast-
Cuyler 5:02
Oh, the CR that makes a G.
Don Mock 5:04
Does it make a G?
Cuyler 5:06
Maybe I’m wrong.
Don Mock 5:06
What would the G be for?
Cuyler 5:08
I think like the the the left most stem of the R, intersecting with the C, kind of creates a G.
Don Mock 5:16
I don’t think that’s intentional, though, to be honest. But point being, I say it’s an epic fail. I don’t think those letters go together at all. Then TB, Tampa Bay. When they left the Devil Rays and went to the Rays, they had a T and a B that were kind of just like next to each other.
Cuyler 5:33
It didn’t really integrate those very well.
Don Mock 5:34
This is weird because, obviously, this is a very, very visual aspect and here we are describing it for radio. So I don’t know how successful this podcast is gonna be.
Cuyler 5:43
Baseball fans will know. They know the uniforms.
Don Mock 5:46
San Diego Padres. I think it’s okay. It’s fine. It’s nothing special. Like the old school New York and San Francisco. You know, LA. It’s hard to knock the LA. I mean, I hate the Dodgers with a passion.
Cuyler 5:58
We both hate the Dodgers. But I do love the
Don Mock 6:00
Fantastic hat. Fantastic logo.
Cuyler 6:03
Fantastic uniform. Almost a single color scheme. I know they use red very sparingly as an accent.
Don Mock 6:09
Do they use red?
Cuyler 6:09
Yeah, on the numbers, you’ll still see-
Don Mock 6:11
Oh, yes. Yes, the numbers are red.
Cuyler 6:13
But it’s more or less the royal blue and the white.
Don Mock 6:15
Interesting, too, I think the Dodgers are kind of from that bygone era where sports teams move and keep their names.
Cuyler 6:21
True, Brooklyn Dodgers.
Don Mock 6:23
Yeah, yeah. And it’s from dodging the cable cars or whatever.
Cuyler 6:28
Your Giants were-
Don Mock 6:30
They’ve always been the Giants.
Cuyler 6:30
The New York baseball Giants.
Don Mock 6:31
Yeah, there were baseball giants, because they had the football giants. I know we’re talking about baseball. But it makes no sense to me that the Utah Jazz basketball team are named Jazz.
Cuyler 6:41
What is it they say? The Jazz moved from New Orleans to Utah, where they don’t allow music. The Lakers moved to LA, where there are no lakes.
Don Mock 6:50
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So I mean, sports teams moved around, but kept their everything, which is interesting. So, but anyway, back to the point at hand. I think that baseball for me is in two camps. You have the ligature, which I think is great. And all those great old established that are so synonymous with baseball. Then you have these other teams that have varying degrees of successful logos on the front of the hat, right? I would say the old-school Milwaukee Brewers mitt, which is the M and the-
Cuyler 7:20
The M and the B with the baseball.
Don Mock 7:21
Yeah.
Cuyler 7:22
Now, I wouldn’t consider that a typographic ligature. I would consider that look. It’s a logo.
Don Mock 7:26
No, it’s a logo. Fantastic logo, I think. Do you disagree?
Cuyler 7:30
It’s a smart logo. I think that they did a really good job on it. The overall shape and how it reads, particularly from afar, I’m not as big a fan of.
Don Mock 7:38
Okay.
Cuyler 7:39
But, what was the alternative? They had the M on there for a while, didn’t they?
Don Mock 7:44
Yeah, after they moved beyond that… after the 80s. I think in the 90s, they leaned into the beer aspect of the Milwaukee Brewers. And it was an M with like, a little wheat stock or some grain.
Cuyler 7:56
That’s right. That’s what it was.
Don Mock 7:57
And it kind of went like ice house micro-brew, they’re kind of going with, “we drink a lot of beers in Milwaukee.” But I don’t know I’ve got a soft spot for that 80s- and before the 80s, obviously- but that MB. To me, it’s kind of like the FedEx arrow in effect, right?
Cuyler 8:15
It’s like, you don’t even see it.
Don Mock 8:17
Exactly. There’s a lot of people that saw that old Milwaukee Brewers logo and probably never realized it was an M and a B.
Cuyler 8:23
Yeah, they thought it was an MIT.
Don Mock 8:24
Yeah, exactly. That’s what I think is super successful about it. Juxtapose that though with the Texas Rangers. It’s Just a T. It’s a T in a circle. And it says Texas and Tangers. Now the typography is fine.
Cuyler 8:40
Yeah, it’s a classic-looking uniform. I want to say it’s more or less the same thing that Nolan Ryan was wearing. I think it’s the same hat.
Don Mock 8:49
Are you thinking of the Astros?
Cuyler 8:52
No, no, the Rangers.
Don Mock 8:53
The Rangers? I don’t even know that he played on the replay on the Ranger.
Cuyler 8:56
Yeah, doesn’t he own them now.
Don Mock 8:58
Oh, gosh. I have no idea. I’m so synonymous with the Ryan Express with the Astros rainbow jersey.
Cuyler 9:04
No, he played on Texas teams.
Don Mock 9:05
See, you learn something new every day.
Cuyler 9:07
I liked the Texas hat. I don’t know.
Don Mock 9:10
Well the Texas hat is just the T, but I’m talking about the logo. Yeah, I guess I Just have the T on there. So same thing. I mean, again, if you split between the ligature and the logo, I would say, the Texas Rangers logo. Because I don’t really consider that a ligature.
Cuyler 9:24
No.
Don Mock 9:24
It’s not as successful for me. Same thing with like the Blue Jays, for example. The Blue Jays typography does nothing for me, but they have that weird bird. The blue jay, obviously, and it’s got the maple leaf in it, as for accent. You know, it’s fine. Yeah, whatever. Doesn’t really do much for me.
Cuyler 9:42
I agree. I agree. What do the the Nationals have on their hat? I’m blanking now on the Nationals.
Don Mock 9:47
They have the W.
Cuyler 9:49
Oh, they have that kind of script.
Don Mock 9:50
The scripty, swoopy, woopy W.
Cuyler 9:52
It almost looks like the Walgreens W, though.
Don Mock 9:54
It does kind of have a Walgreens vibe to it.
Cuyler 9:56
Yeah. Now I do think that the Montreal Expos is the same franchise as the nationals. I liked their kind of lowercase script hat…
Don Mock 10:07
With the three colors on there?
Yeah.
I’m okay with that. That’s fine.
Cuyler 10:11
I like that uniform.
Don Mock 10:12
It’s funny, because I don’t think about it, because that team doesn’t really exist anymore.
Cuyler 10:12
No, it hasn’t for a long time, but they used to be in the Braves division.
Don Mock 10:17
Yeah, correct.
Cuyler 10:18
I remember Pedro being on the…
Don Mock 10:19
Correct. All right, off the top of your head, worst baseball logo. As it stands right now.
Cuyler 10:25
As it stands now, I’ll stand by the D-Backs.
Don Mock 10:28
The D-Backs have the worst.
Cuyler 10:29
I don’t like… I’m trying to think… I think the hat is the-
Don Mock 10:33
The A with a zigzaggy pattern, right? Kind of like a back of a snake… isn’t that their thing.
Cuyler 10:37
That’s one of them. But I think they have another one, that’s a D with a snake woven in it.
Don Mock 10:41
Oh, they do have the D Yeah. It’s kind of Disney-ish looking. It’s cartoony.
Cuyler 10:46
The front of their jerseys just say D-Backs. So something about that re-branding, I wasn’t a fan of. I liked it better when it was the A. They hadnthe purple and teal colors. Which I think Tampa Bay and Arizon were expansion teams in the same year. And they both had the purple and green color scheme there for a minute.
Don Mock 11:06
Yeah, yeah. I don’t know that either one of them have really done much for me, to be totally honest.
Cuyler 11:11
With a sport that’s so iconic with or synonymous with Americana. A lot of the most successful ones are simple color schemes, or red, red, white, blue, some kind of combination.
Don Mock 11:24
Agreed, agreed. It was hey, you wear gray on the road. And on the road you have your city on your front of your jersey. And then when you’re home, you have your team name, that type of thing, right? I’m gonna go and say the Miami Marlins, hands down my least favorite of what’s happening now. I didn’t really love the way it launched. I mean, I’m okay with the F. And it had the Marlin kind of wrapped around it, you know, initially-
Cuyler 11:48
I like the traditional one.
Don Mock 11:49
- in the 90s. Then they went kind of South Beach M, neon. They tried to be cool and black and it did nothing for me. Now I think it’s even worse. It’s this horrible abstract Marlin fish jumping out of the water with baseball. It’s got the red threading of the baseball kind of wrapped-
Cuyler 12:08
It’s not a hat I would want to wear.
Don Mock 12:10
No.
Cuyler 12:12
There’s something about the Red Sox hat. The Yankees. You just end up with that clean one-color. I know with the Braves, the home hat will have the red bill. I’ve actually always preferred the away hat.
Don Mock 12:25
Yeah. All blue?
Cuyler 12:28
Navy blue with just the A on it.
Don Mock 12:30
I’m good with that.
Cuyler 12:30
To me, that’s what a baseball cap should look like.
Don Mock 12:33
Yeah, yeah. Simple. I think less is more. Again, as I mentioned, baseball has been around forever and a day. Right? So it’s hard, if you’re a new brand, I think competing with like the Red Sox or Mets. Maybe not the Mets but the Yankees, because it’s like, “oh, wow, those guys have been around for 100 -200 years?”
Cuyler 12:55
The Reds Jersey hasn’t changed for ever.
Don Mock 12:59
Cincinnati Reds?
Cuyler 12:59
Yeah.
Don Mock 13:00
Yeah, yeah, their Cincinnati C on their hat has never changed.
Cuyler 13:03
It’s been the same thing forever. And they’re one of the old teams. The White Sox, we were looking at a rebrand. But I think it was just an alternate jersey. They’ve stayed pretty close to their old White Sox, the Black Sox team of, what was that? 1919?
Don Mock 13:20
The Black Sox?
Cuyler 13:21
Yeah.
Don Mock 13:21
With a scandal and whatnot. I wouldn’t know, you would know. Sounds about right.
Cuyler 13:25
I think it’s more or less the same jersey that they were wearing.
Don Mock 13:28
tTheir hats different, though, that says Sox on it now.
Cuyler 13:30
The hat is different.
Don Mock 13:32
I don’t like hats that have full words on the front, though.
Cuyler 13:34
Yeah, I’m not as big a fan of that.
Don Mock 13:35
Yeah, not not really my jam.
Cuyler 13:38
The Cubs have been more or less the same uniform?
Don Mock 13:40
Yeah.
Cuyler 13:40
It’s hard for a sport, that is so rooted in tradition, for the expansion teams to form their own identity.
Don Mock 13:46
Correct. I agree.
Cuyler 13:47
But we were kind of talking about… some of the ones that are more successful are the ones that at least play in the same lane. And even if they don’t have this history-
Don Mock 13:58
They kind of visually fake history.
Cuyler 13:59
Yeah, they visually create a look, that feels like, this has been a team for 100 years.
Don Mock 14:06
Do you have a team that you like, along those lines? Are were talking about the same team?
Cuyler 14:09
We were talking about the Guardians rebrand.
Don Mock 14:12
Cleveland guardians.
Cuyler 14:14
I think that the type is really cool, it looks both modern and retro.
Don Mock 14:17
Correct.
Cuyler 14:18
It has a nice, timeless feel to it.
Don Mock 14:20
Yeah.
Cuyler 14:21
Anytime you have a team that has gone by one name for so long.
Don Mock 14:25
Yes.
Cuyler 14:26
I think for any sports fan, there’s like this weird process, where you’re still getting used to calling them the Guardians, or for the Redskins calling them the Commanders.
Don Mock 14:35
Yeah, absolutely.
Cuyler 14:36
But I do think that it’s been successful rebrand, because it’s starting to feel more seamless. It’s kind of more comfortable just saying the Guardians, versus you know…
Don Mock 14:47
Well, they kept the same color scheme and, to your point Cuyler, they really did a good job of modernizing the old. It’s got one foot in both lanes for me, right? It’s definitely modern, the way the Guardians script is written. But it kind of has a foot in the past, in terms of the way it’s treated. Then their crazy G logo with the baseball in the middle and all that kind of stuff. But again, they did what we are sitting here loving, which is… the hat is just one color and then the logo, the C on the front of that is just one color, right? It’s nice and clean and simple. I think minimalism in regards to design is really successful there, versus like what you’re talking about, with the Arizona Diamondbacks. Sounds like there’s too much going on.
Cuyler 15:30
Way too much going on. To me, they’re they’re a franchise, that even though they do have a good history, they’ve never been able to quite find a look and feel that they stuck with. I mean, they changed the look of the Diamondbacks, like every five years or so.
Don Mock 15:47
However often they’re allowed to do it, it feels like they do it. Same with Miami Marlins.
Cuyler 15:51
Miami does the same thing, yeah.
Don Mock 15:56
I’m thinking back into the logo aspect. What about Baltimore Orioles?
Cuyler 16:00
Are you talking about the the new bird that they have on there?
Don Mock 16:06
They had the old one, which was the cartoon bird.
Cuyler 16:08
Yeah, that’s the one I’m thinking of.
Don Mock 16:09
It’s a cartoon bird wearing a baseball hat.
Cuyler 16:12
I think I’ms kind of funny.
Don Mock 16:12
With the O on the front, right? Then they transition to, the end of Cal Ripken’s career, it was like a realistic looking bird. Which I didn’t like that at all. It’s like, I don’t need a full bird on the front of this.
Cuyler 16:24
I didn’t like it as much either. Growing up, though, to me, that’s what the Orioles looked like. But they also have the O logo, that they do.
Don Mock 16:32
Which is pulled off of the cartoon bird that’s wearing the hat.
Cuyler 16:36
I think I prefer that.
Don Mock 16:37
Oh, do you like the O?
Cuyler 16:38
It’s better than anythihng else.
Don Mock 16:38
Yeah, I would agree with that. All right, a baseball confession. I’m not ashamed to admit this out loud for the legions of listeners. Minnesota Twins. Obviously, I’m not from Minnesota. I was always confused as a kid as to why their hat was the TC.
Cuyler 16:55
For the Twin Cities?
Don Mock 16:56
The Twin Cities. I never I never understood that until I became an adult.
Cuyler 16:59
Yeah I dont think I did either, when I was younger.
Don Mock 17:01
Yeah, I was like, “I don’t get it. Twins don’t have like a C.” What’s happening here?
Cuyler 17:05
Where’s the M?
Don Mock 17:05
However, I think that’s also a great case study of the localization and the cool factor of your ownable tea. I mean, it is very unique. And Cleveland, obviously… the transition to the Guardians, and they have the Guardian bridge and the statues and you know, it’s unique to them. It’s not just a generic team name, if that makes any sense. So I do appreciate thtat.
The Commander’s was a much more- Now we’re switching sports, but the Commanders in terms of a rebrand, far less successful. It seemed like they put out flyers online in terms of like, “hey, what names should we go with?”
They leaked like five or six names. The Red Wolves and all sorts of other crazy names. I don’t even remember half of them.
Cuyler 17:47
Some people still think that the Washington Football Team was the better option.
Don Mock 17:51
Yeah. WFT.
Cuyler 17:53
Somehow a little bit more classly.
Don Mock 17:54
Well, it does kind of have that throwback feeling to it, which is interesting. Well, we can’t talk about football. We’re talking about baseball. So that’ll be another one. Well, I’m gonna guess your favorite logo’s probably Atlanta Braves.
Cuyler 18:06
Yeah, love the A.
Don Mock 18:09
What came first the Atlanta Braves logo or the Oakland A’s?
Cuyler 18:15
That’s a good question.
Don Mock 18:16
I don’t know the answer to this.
Cuyler 18:19
That’s a good question.
Don Mock 18:20
Yeah. Maybe we should edit this part.
Cuyler 18:22
Well, I’ll say this. I’ll say this. I think it’s the I think it’s the Oakland A’s, because when the Braves were in Milwaukee, it was an M on the hat right?
Don Mock 18:28
Yes. Right. Correct.
Cuyler 18:30
When they came here to Atlanta, I want to say that was almost immediately when they switched to…
Don Mock 18:35
The blue color scheme?
Cuyler 18:37
The blue color scheme. So the uniform that we have now was the Milwaukee uniform. But the hat was different, right?
Don Mock 18:43
Correct.
Cuyler 18:43
Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe there was a transition, where we had the capital A Yeah. On the hat here in Atlanta before the 60s retro look.
Don Mock 18:54
I don’t know.
Cuyler 18:55
But I want to say maybe that was more the Dale Murphy…. My issue with the 80s stuff is they didn’t have the button-up. They had a pullover T-shirt jersey.
Don Mock 19:03
Yeah, it was a strange look.
Cuyler 19:06
And there were a lot of teams I think really changed the look of their team completely. The Astros are probably the team I’m thinking of the most.
Don Mock 19:14
As literally our mail guy comes up wearing a Braves hat right now.
Cuyler 19:19
He always has that hat on.
Don Mock 19:20
Yeah, that’s pretty cool.
Cuyler 19:20
It’s a good look.
Don Mock 19:21
He’s living the dream. I think simplicity is key still, and the A is just a 2-color thing. Which I think is nice.
Cuyler 19:30
Yeah, and what I will say about the Oakland A’s… other than like the Oregon Ducks, you don’t see a lot of the green and yellow. They stand out, I’ll say that. I hope that if they switch cities, which it seems…
Don Mock 19:45
Plausible?
Cuyler 19:46
Yeah. It seems kind of imminent at this point. That they’ll keep the look and feel. If they go to Vegas, those colors…
Don Mock 19:53
Originally, weren’t they the Philadelphia Athletics? Or am I totally making that up? Did they move from Philly? I’m totally making that up, probably.
I don’t know.
Cuyler 19:59
I’ve always known them as the Oakland A’s. I think that they have always been the Oakland A’s. I might be wrong. Baseball teams moved so much before my dad was born.
Don Mock 20:08
Man, I don’t know. They’re kind of like Alabama, the Crimson Tide, in that they’ve got elephants also, too. They have their secondary logo. So… this is going to be weird podcasts for people to listen to, because it’s a lot of theater of the mind. This is one of those like, if you know it, you know it. We’re kind of rekindling that memory right? I would say my favorite secondary logo, so not primary logo. Secondary logo considered, not on the hat but on the sleeve, maybe of the jerseys, things like that. It’s gotta be the San Diego Padres with the Friar with swinging the bat. The old cartoon, you know, he’s got the bat. He’s all twisted up and stuff. His robes are flying one way. Hilarious.
Cuyler 20:47
Overall, I really like the rebranding that they did. The S and the D stayed I think the same, or very close to it.
They may have added some little points or something, but the jersey itself looks a lot sharper now. Tough, tough color scheme.
The brown and the yellow.
Don Mock 21:01
The brown and yellow. Yeah.
Cuyler 21:03
I think it looks better than that dark blue and yellow. I don’t know if they were doing that, because of the Chargers…
Don Mock 21:12
The way they’ve treated it looks pretty sharp, though. But they’ve got some tone-on-tone pinstriping I think going on, too, which is-
Cuyler 21:18
A pinstripe is the other design feature, that is almost exclusive to baseball.
Don Mock 21:24
Let me ask you this, Mr. C, where has the stirrup gone?
Cuyler 21:28
The stirrup?
Don Mock 21:28
Yeah. Why don’t we have stirrups in uniforms anymore? You know, coming up from the little stripe or whatever down here? On the sock and everything, or that extra little piece of gear used to wear in Little League? I’m dating myself here.
Cuyler 21:41
The strap that would put on hook on the bottom of your foot. When I was in Little League. They just made the socks with stripes. I mean, I used to wear those. I do think somewhere when I was probably like 15, 16 or so playing ball, solid socks got really popular.
Don Mock 21:56
Became the thing. But pretty much now we’ve got pants that go all the way down to the shoes. I mean, nobody wears knee pants anymore like they used to.
Cuyler 22:03
When I was a kid Chipper had his… as kids, we had our pants above the knee.
Don Mock 22:10
Whoa. Okay,
Cuyler 22:11
Kids got crazy with it. Then Griffey came on the scene. And everyone had them all the way down to their ankles.
Don Mock 22:15
It was all baggy. And he’s swinging one-handed, one handed follow-through and that type of thing. So all right. Well, we’ve probably prattled on enough about theater of the mind and baseball logos. Any final thoughts for you on baseball stuff?
Cuyler 22:27
Go Braves.
Don Mock 22:28
Yeah, Go Braves. All right, everybody. Well, you can find us at mocktheagency.com You can find us on the socials just do @mocktheagency and drop us a line, and we’ll chat with you next time. Thanks everybody.
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