Episode Transcript
Don Mock 0:20
Alright episode 113. It has been a long time. But we’re back, Rob.
Rob Broadfoot 0:25
It’s been a minute.
Don Mock 0:27
For those binging it’s only within literally a matter of seconds.
Rob Broadfoot 0:31
We’ve missed you.
Don Mock 0:33
But for us, we need to shake the rust off, because it’s been a little while since we’ve recorded a podcast. So
Rob Broadfoot 0:41
we’re here.
I’m ready to go.
Don Mock 0:42
I don’t even know how to do this anymore.
Exactly. All right, Episode 113. What’s today’s topic Rob?
Rob Broadfoot 0:51
Well, we’re gonna date this podcast. So we’re actually coming to you.
Don Mock 0:58
Are you going to date it? Or we’re going to keep it nebulous?
Rob Broadfoot 1:00
We’re coming to you in the past. how about that.
Don Mock 1:03
That’s all television. I mean, except for sports.
Rob Broadfoot 1:05
That’s right. That’s right.
Don Mock 1:07
But even sports, it’s so annoying. How now with streaming, and and it’s everything’s on a delay, you know? 15 second, sometimes 45 Second, like, a lot of people text me like, oh my god, touchdown. And I’m like, Dude, I’m like, What?
Rob Broadfoot 1:20
You can’t do that. Like you can’t do that. You have to set very specific rules with your buddies on
Don Mock 1:27
Yeah, I had a buddy of mine at an event on Christmas texting me from the event like, Oh my God. I’m like, Oh, dude, like, the live to, to to streaming television now. I mean, dude, that’s like a minute. I mean, it was like, I gotta turn my phone over upside down and then just be on delay.
Rob Broadfoot 1:45
the only the very first text you ever send to any of your friends is? Are you live? that’s it. You cannot send a score. You cannot make any assumption.
Don Mock 1:54
But What I’m saying is even live is delayed. Even if you’re on Hulu, and you’re watching it as it’s happening. That’s still very much delayed compared to like reality.
Rob Broadfoot 2:02
I’m old school. I don’t watch anything live on
Don Mock 2:04
even sporting events?
Rob Broadfoot 2:05
I mean, Apple TV. I do. I watch MLS live on that at but Hulu I don’t really watch anything live on.
You
Don Mock 2:11
know,
Well I still I’m a sports guy. So I mean, I love watching sports, but it’s still it’s still delayed, or it’s like, Oh, your buddy’s on a pirate stream. You’re on Hulu, and they’re on YouTube TV. Nothing’s like synced the world is operating in different frequencies now, which leads us to today’s topic and frequencies and delay.
Rob Broadfoot 2:29
What’s the frequency Kenneth?
Don Mock 2:30
Yeah. I don’t know the next line of the song. I’m not an REM fan.
Rob Broadfoot 2:34
You are not an REM fan?
Don Mock 2:36
fine REM now I mean, Rem got big when I wasn’t really into that type of music, you know And I kind of got it through osmosis through my high school girlfriend at the time. She was in REM, but I’m like, you know, the video that didn’t do much for me at that time. And now I’m talking early 90s, early 90s. And I didn’t grow up out here.
Rob Broadfoot 2:56
Yeah, you had to grow up. If you grew up here.
Don Mock 3:01
It’s like Huey Lewis for me. Like no one likes Huey Lewis. But I love him.
Rob Broadfoot 3:04
I like Huey Lewis. Great videos. He loves his jet skis and islands and like, yeah, the sports was a great outfit.
Don Mock 3:12
rock and roll with the saxophone for crying out loud, But yeah, I don’t know. What is the next line after What’s the frequency kenneth we’ve gone totally off.
Rob Broadfoot 3:12
I don’t know. Because I don’t think it’s one of those. I can hum it and I can kind of, but I have no idea What the actual words are.
Don Mock 3:26
No one needs me to hum the next line
Rob Broadfoot 3:27
What’s the frequency Kenneth? Is your something understood I don’t really know.
Don Mock 3:33
Well, we’ll hit it in the Arizona missions.
Rob Broadfoot 3:35
Yeah. Well, Here’s, Here’s the nebulous this will keep it it’s early 2024. how about that, we are into the New Year officially. And we thought it might be interesting to look into the magic eight ball and see if we can predict any trends, potentially industry trends that we might
Don Mock 3:57
oh you had trends. I thought it was just your predictions that we’re talking predictions, but you going trends I like it
Rob Broadfoot 4:03
We’re gonna love it all together.
Don Mock 4:05
Okay, I got you.
Rob Broadfoot 4:05
We can predict trends.
Don Mock 4:07
Okay, I’m okay with that. I love it.
All right. Well, why don’t you kick us off then if we’re talking about 2024 predictions and yeah, I can’t believe it’s already the new year, but that’s just me, it still feels like 1997 to me.
Rob Broadfoot 4:26
So all right, I’ll let’s see. I’ll start I’ll start with one with with a prediction.
Don Mock 4:31
You wanna start with the obvious? there’s the obvious topic of 2024 Yeah, the election.
Rob Broadfoot 4:37
Yeah I guess it’s an election.
Don Mock 4:40
I mean, talk about advertising and media spend. I mean,
Rob Broadfoot 4:42
I thought you’re gonna say Taylor Swift
Don Mock 4:43
is surprised to know one. It’ll be the most expensive election in the history of ever just like the one following that will be the most expensive
Rob Broadfoot 4:51
it’s nauseating. And I already hate every every minute of it. It’s gonna be terrible
Don Mock 4:57
Amen. Yeah.
Rob Broadfoot 4:58
it’s Biden gonna run? Is he gonna pull out what’s gonna happen?
Don Mock 5:02
No Biden will run he’s gonna run Yeah, he’s staying
Yeah, beyond that, who knows? I don’t want to do any I mean, the topic is we’re not gonna talk politics or election.
Rob Broadfoot 5:05
Oh no, no no no no
Don Mock 5:14
However, things will happen in 2024 and there’ll be a lot of money spent and a lot of media spent and a lot of it wasted.
Rob Broadfoot 5:21
Here’s What you’re gonna see under. I think you will see industry wise. I think we will absolutely see. I’m gonna say I’m gonna say two. I’m gonna call two massive massive rebrands
Don Mock 5:37
really? Okay. That’s a prediction
Rob Broadfoot 5:40
and I think and this is this is kind of the safe pick right but I’m gonna say one will be successful and the other will be a disaster and by disaster I mean once we’ve talked about before similar to like a gap right? Or Tropicana or like a massive rebrand
Don Mock 5:57
Ok but they’ll turn tail and go back to What it used to be or they course correct quickly.
Rob Broadfoot 6:02
I think they will course correct. I think one will course correct quickly. One will be a mistake and course correct quickly and then one will be successful and move forward. I think we’re gonna see those with two big big brands
Don Mock 6:12
Okay, now do you have any verticals that that’ll play in like I automotive, beverage?
Rob Broadfoot 6:17
I don’t have any idea.
Don Mock 6:18
That’s too much of prediction. Okay.
Rob Broadfoot 6:20
What was the last big automotive rebrand? Was it Kia?
Don Mock 6:24
I would say it’s Kia.
Rob Broadfoot 6:25
Kia with the crazy logo.
Don Mock 6:28
Yeah. Which I love. I love that logo. I think it’s cool. I think typographically it’s super cool. I think who cares about legibility? Once you see it? You see it? You know? Yeah.
Rob Broadfoot 6:37
I don’t really have it. Like, I’m fine with it. I don’t really have a omg it’s amazing or I hate it like I’m just kind of okay,
Don Mock 6:44
well, Here’s what’s cool about it. Well, in my opinion, I guess it very much pushes the brand forward in conjunction with all of the redesigns and the design of the automotives the cars themselves, right. Yeah. So like the cars are getting more futuristic looking. They obviously have new industrial design teams. They’re pushing the envelope. It’s not like the low cost South Korean automatic. You know What I mean? Like,
Rob Broadfoot 7:08
didn’t they have the hamsters?
Don Mock 7:09
They have the hamsters with the Kia Soul. That was correct. Yeah. So if you look at the old Kia logo, you’re like, oh,
Rob Broadfoot 7:16
yeah, I think you’re right.
Don Mock 7:18
But you look at the new Kia Telluride
Rob Broadfoot 7:20
It’s amazing
Don Mock 7:22
It’s a cool looking car and you see it with the old badge and you’re like ew No, but you see What the new badge like, okay, that works. You know? Yeah. So I mean, like context is key. You know?
Rob Broadfoot 7:32
I think that’s right.
Don Mock 7:32
Yeah, I think that would be the new yeah, that’s, you know, nobody has I mean, I guess you could say cybertruck, you know, is new and has come out and has its own crazy brands but it’s got the spray painted graffiti, like, it’s a very aggressive, weird sort of thing. But Kia, I’d say is a bigger holistic brand. cybertruck, I would say is still kind of still one little niche sort of thing. Yeah.
Rob Broadfoot 7:55
So yeah. So I think we’re gonna see, I think we’ll see a couple of couple of big rebrands I don’t, I don’t know What they’re gonna be.
Don Mock 8:03
Well, it’s funny, you say, cars, because that was one of my predictions was going to be more and more and more ubiquitous, and the rise of electric cars, you know, just just as a sort of a trend, right? It’s finally starting. I mean, we’re in 2024. And, and we’ve been talking about this forever. VW gotten all that trouble with the diesel, you know, and they were okay, we’re going all electric. I mean, you’re just gonna end up seeing it more and more and more.
Rob Broadfoot 8:26
Yeah. Well, there’s also all these like, because I think I read the other day, that was the electric vehicle company that’s like past Tesla now or something. And it’s some little like, you never even heard of them or I haven’t anyway,
Don Mock 8:40
there is a Chinese company that has surpassed Tesla in terms of volume,
Rob Broadfoot 8:46
maybe that’s What it was. Maybe that’s What it was.
Don Mock 8:49
And it is a low cost alternative only available in China, they don’t export, you know, but by volume, they have surpassed now, but it’s that’s one of those like, you can skew numbers anywhere, you know, that’s the number one market, they have the most amount of people, you know What I mean? So by volume, you know, and per capita, I mean, you know, like, you can fudge the numbers certain way but finally yeah, we do have an automotive company that has surpassed Tesla in terms of, and Tesla was only like, whatever, 435,000 per quarter or something like that. Yeah, I mean, and they were they just barely nipped them. So
Rob Broadfoot 9:26
feel like and you would know more about this than I would as you’re the owner of electric vehicles.
Don Mock 9:33
Yeah. I love electric cars. So
Rob Broadfoot 9:37
it seems to me like…shouldn’t our distance be better at this at this point in time? Like we’ve been working on these batteries for a long time.
Don Mock 9:48
It’s BYD is the name of the Chinese company. It just came to me. BYD
Rob Broadfoot 9:52
not to be confused with Michael Jackson’s TYT.
Don Mock 9:54
No, no, absolutely not.
Rob Broadfoot 9:56
You know What I mean? I feel like the range is not growing with the provision of electric cars in society? Well,
Don Mock 10:05
I think a couple things. I think we started off with the 6075 miles. And we kind of sat around there with the 75 miles an hour for a while. And then we made a giant leap to 300 miles, which we found out all those numbers are phony baloney. Well, that’s more than it’s more than twice
Rob Broadfoot 10:24
It just feels like in this day and age, we can do better than that. Yeah.
Don Mock 10:28
Well, Toyota has put out is it Toyota? Toyota put out the press release at the end of last year that they have developed a lithium ion battery that can basically go 800 miles on a charge. And then you can rapid charge up to 90% of the battery in 10 minutes, right. So if that is true, right, that eliminates the full Cross Country Road Trip sort of disaster. And if you can drive a car for eight hours straight..you can stop for 10 minutes to charge.
That’s What I’m talking about.
That’s a 26 or 27, sort of deal
Rob Broadfoot 11:01
the full charges and how short of a time 10 minutes. That’s great. Okay,
Don Mock 11:05
so that’s a press release. I mean, we’ve seen press releases from from Tesla, that’s like, for 10 years, they’ve been saying AI automatic driving is ready. And it’s never come to pass
Rob Broadfoot 11:14
don’t know, I just it just seems to me like, batteries should be better like we should be able to drive across country.
Don Mock 11:21
Okay, but think about this, we still put double A batteries in the back of things. You know What I mean? Like, Here’s a computer mouse in front of me. And then we put like, battery, like Duracell batteries
Rob Broadfoot 11:33
It’s just our society were weird like that.
Don Mock 11:37
You know, at CES this year, you know, the big Rage was hydrogen, hydrogen and is back, you know, as opposed Yeah. Because the problem with electric cars, obviously, as you mentioned, is the distance and the manufacturing the batteries and the cobalt. And it’s not a universal, you know, you can’t get it everywhere. Right. Yeah, that’s part of the problem. Right. Yeah. So but yeah, I think you know, electric car, they’re not going away
Rob Broadfoot 11:59
they’re definitely not going away.
Don Mock 12:01
Yeah, well, my big thing. I mean, we’ve talked about it on the podcast before. But the the first note that I put down is I think we’re going to have if I was to be so bold as to make a prediction. I don’t think it’s going away. But I think we are going to start to have the big backlash on AI. I think this will be the year where AI starts losing more than it’s gaining. Because it’s been gaining, gaining, gaining, gaining gaining, right, yeah. And I think the lawsuits are finally going to come up with it. Like, you just, you just see this whole, all the artists work. Yeah, without any compensation. You know, like, we’re going to have a fulcrum point of like, Are there copyright laws in the world? Or are they’re not? They’re either are or there aren’t, you know,
Rob Broadfoot 12:45
so you’re saying the shininess of AI is going to wear out, start to tarnish
Don Mock 12:49
well, it doesn’t work. I mean, it doesn’t really work anywhere. And you know, like, there’s, you know, now that’s different than marketing automation. For example. I mean
Rob Broadfoot 13:00
Are you talking about AI with regards to our industry, not just AI in general terms?
Don Mock 13:05
I’m speaking, I guess, Mmm, hmm. That’s a great question. I was thinking more broadly. But I have more of an eye my interest in AI is, is through our prism of our industry, and specifically, like more writing, and artistry, right, so it’s really like, yeah, we trained AI on these because they were forced to release. I keep up with this I don’t know that you do. But like, they were forced to release all of the artists that were loaded into midsummer or midterm, whatever, to train the AI on how to create artwork, right, right. And it’s the massive list of Here’s all the artists that we fed all their works into, right. So now you’ve just created the Bible of Well, hey, I didn’t give you permission for this. I’m an artist on that list. You know, that’s all right. Right. So we see, you know, Adobe Photoshop commercials, right of the little girl that’s like, Oh, I’m, I’m riding a unicorn over a rainbow over that, you know, I mean, all that kind of stuff. Right? Well, all that stuff is trained on all the on the backs of artists that created all this work. And they just, you know, I mean, I’m grossly simplifying this but like, they were like Oh we scan everything in and, you know, whatever. So I think that there’ll be AI has been just the momentum has been forward, whether it works is broken or not, is just going forward, forward, forward, forward, forward. I think this will be the year where there potentially could be some significant setbacks. Yeah. And it’s gonna go backwards. It will vary by industry.
I think that’s the point. I think it’ll it’ll start to splinter. Fracture by industry. Yeah. Because you’ll have like, like medicine, for example. And health care. It’s going to go gangbusters and that’s generally speaking, way, way, way, way positive. For the most part, right. That’s not like a copyright.
No, that’s more algorithmic based Predictive Analysis
Rob Broadfoot 14:54
correct. And that’s factual and science based generally speaking which is different from ours which is a more interpretive
Don Mock 15:02
Or a chat GPT, which I’m asking questions. Right, And it’s, you know, over the course of 2023 Chat GPT got dumber. Because the humans interacting with it, you know, trained it to, to answer lowest common denominator questions, I mean, it got worse over the years
Rob Broadfoot 15:19
Is this year that we become the second most intelligent species on Earth? Well, that’s really the question is, when is that going to happen? Because it’s going to happen.
Don Mock 15:29
I mean, outside of AI, I don’t know that we’re the smartest species on the planet anyway. You know What I mean? Like, we don’t live in harmony with the planet, that’s for sure.
Rob Broadfoot 15:39
Yeah. Cuz last year, at the end of the year, towards the end, the year was all about like, oh, AI has taught itself to learn, things that no one taught it how to do.
Yeah, it taught itself a language, right. It was like
No one had programmed or taught it how to do that. Actively learn something on its own. And that’s
Don Mock 16:00
yeah, that’s like sci fi judgment day. Yeah.
Rob Broadfoot 16:03
That’s terrifying.
Don Mock 16:04
Well, the wheels of justice move extremely slowly, not only here, but all over the world. Right. Yeah. And I think there are going to be sort of copyright infringement. Yeah, there will be out like, you know, oh, you know, I’m coming at it from a visual artists perspective, but it’s Oh, we gave it all of, you know, X, Y z’s, you know, books, you know, things like that, right. And now it can mimic and create its own books in the style of that author, or it wrote a song, a Drake song and things like that. Right. So
Rob Broadfoot 16:33
you know, in the news lately, with Harvard, and Penn and all these places, you’re seeing plagiarism Is the, you know, is the headline? Yeah, so you’re gonna, you’re absolutely gonna start to see a lot of that kind of stuff going on? Yeah. Oh,
Don Mock 16:45
I just had a good one. I forgot it. Because I just had a senior moment. Well,
Rob Broadfoot 16:47
I’ve got one, maybe you’ll remember it? So this isn’t a new thing for 2024. But I think it’ll be an evolving thing. And I was talking with a potential client about this. This morning, in fact, and it’s the idea that, and again, we’ve talked about this before, but I think it’s just going to continue to develop, which is the idea that, you know, back in the day, it was you, you, you did your sort of brand Foundation, and you did your identity work, and then increasingly, so it was a well, I need my website, right. And your website was the cost of entry. And it was the validation that you’re a legitimate company, and, and then, you know, yeah, oh, I can buy things there. I can do the things there. I can do all this stuff there. I think that will continue to develop as an outreach tool and not an incoming tool, it will become a marketing tactic. Right. So much more. So your site, okay. Yep. And it’s been doing that for a while. But but I think you’ll start to see more sites doing better with SEO more, that becomes oftentimes, and will become increasingly so the almost the tip of the spear for people’s marketing outreach, I think increasingly so. And not as a not as a pull tactic. But as a push tactic. Over the course of the year, I think that will continue to happen. And you’ll have your ancillary budgets for your digital ads on your other stuff like that. But I think the website is going to become more and more prevalent as a as a marketing tool.
Don Mock 18:18
Yeah. Do you think there’ll be kind of it still is fragmented, meaning your digital presence, like you’ve got your social channels, which are fragmented, you’ve got your site, you know, you have your physical address, things like that. Do you think that there’ll be more of a union between the fragmented nature of being online? Yeah,
Rob Broadfoot 18:36
absolutely. I mean, it. The world is turning that way. Anyway, both personally and professionally everything is Oh, now everything is all tied together. Somehow. I have no idea how it’s all tied. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I think from a marketing standpoint, and if you’re doing it right, which you should be its Yeah, Here’s the wheel. The wheel has all the spokes and all the spokes work together to make the wheel go round. And those spokes are your social your digital presence, your influencer campaigns, your search all the stuff works together as a big digital program. Yeah,
Don Mock 19:12
I don’t disagree with that at all. I know that that’s one of the premises of Elon’s purchase of Twitter right was to create the all in one app. Yeah, right. It was don’t stop going all these other places. And that already exists. I know that exists in China. But it’s it’s Hey, I do my social I do my texting, I do my calling and my banking, you know, our purchases and things a shopping and things like that all through one centralized you know, it’s just called app. Yeah, it’s like general store. Yeah. And that
Rob Broadfoot 19:36
will continue to happen. As you know, Facebook buys up Instagram and things like that. And everybody starts to kind of, you know, gosh, man,
Don Mock 19:42
I mean, I’ve been saying for I feel like a couple years, like, how much more can Facebook grow? Right? I mean, they’ve got they’ve got like, everything and they’re still damn near almost 80% of all social referral traffic is Facebook, right? Yeah. It’s like it’s so big. I mean, so you talked about the others, but the other they’re still really just still playing in the margins. Right? I mean, they’re, I mean, they are the 10,000 pound gorilla, right? And it’s like how many, like, who doesn’t have the people that want one who doesn’t have an entree into Facebook already? You know, like, where else can they grow? It’s totally insane. So, but, you know, so it’s like, I mean, do we finally start to see the decline in numbers of people socially? Right, potentially? I don’t know. You know, that could be a prediction. I guess that could potentially be a trend domestically?
Rob Broadfoot 20:29
I don’t think we’re gonna see that.
Don Mock 20:31
I don’t think so. either. But it astounds me just of how the the gorilla just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Yeah, it’s really remarkable.
Rob Broadfoot 20:40
So and well, the decline of civilization takes a while.
Don Mock 20:44
Well, there’s, you know, yeah, that’s so much to be sad about. So Well, personally, we both joke about Facebook groups and stuff like that. And again, we do full Facebook marketing, and we’ve got our social outreach for clients or stuff like that. And, and online reputation management to a certain extent, and you know, dealing with Joe Q Public have I want to buy this or I can’t find that and things like that, you know, and it is an interesting portal into the minds of consumers, right? That’s about as positive as I can spend that. So any other I have no other predictions I’ve got there was a chance we were going to go back to the moon, but that has already been scrapped by the time we’ve been. And I was going to bring that up as a joke, because I know how much he loves space travel, but we’re not going back to the moon. We scrapped it. So we got fuel leaks and all sorts of problems. Somehow we can deal with tin foil and a little aluminum sheet blankie or whatever, that back in the olden days, right. But now we cant do it
Rob Broadfoot 21:43
we cant do it. Yeah, I would like to take a moment to maybe it’s a trend that continues. Maybe it doesn’t I don’t know, but I have a congratulatory comment. Okay,
Don Mock 21:55
let’s end on a positive
Rob Broadfoot 21:56
I want to congratulate as the comeback kid of 2023. The QR code. I want to give out a round of applause for the QR code a hell of a comeback. I mean, do you remember a long, long, long ago? QR codes were out were out in the world. And everybody’s like, What is this weird bitmap square that you’re expecting me to zap something. And so really, we kind of have COVID to thank
Don Mock 22:25
the return of the QR code, comeback Player of the Year.
Rob Broadfoot 22:30
Yeah, COVID just CPR that thing back to life.
Don Mock 22:33
That is hilarious.
Rob Broadfoot 22:34
I mean, it just because all of a sudden, I was like, Oh, I don’t want to touch anything. And I gotta order my menu thing. And lo and behold, everybody went, you know What? This is a pretty damn useful little gizmo.
Don Mock 22:47
Let me give you my take on that. And, you know, kudos to you for bringing that up. Because that’s actually really interesting. And I hadn’t considered it and you are 100% Correct. You’re absolutely correct. I think we all experienced a QR code. Now you got me say, QR code And had that resounding level of disappointment, right? Yeah. Because it was, oh, wait a minute. Now I have to download an extra app to scan it that then maybe ties to my browser and phones weren’t as you know, as responsive and stuff. So you had you had a significant letdown. I’m like, oh my god, I just jumped through 10 hoops, and I got nothing burger, you know, but now that it’s built into your phone and a tie seamlessly, either to Chrome or Safari or whatever you’re doing right.
Rob Broadfoot 23:30
yeah, exactly. It’s not a magical door that you think you’re gonna you’re gonna walk into this wonderland of skittles Taste the rainbow you know
Don Mock 23:38
I will say put some on some design. I mean, I literally just put some on. I mean, there. You know I just put it back on a brochure that I actually took it off of last year. It’s back.
Rob Broadfoot 23:52
I literally put one on a printout this morning. I’m not joking you for a massive massive company.
Don Mock 23:56
That is hilarious.
Rob Broadfoot 23:58
Now, I will also congratulate the QR code on maintaining its design, lack of integrity it is it’s like you know What? I’m a square bitmap ugly son of a b and I’m not changing the damn thing.
Don Mock 24:16
Well, and some of them have like 10,000 little black squares and some of them only have like 50 Yeah, you know, like what’s up with that but
Rob Broadfoot 24:23
I’m not changing I’m not changing my shape. Now I’m not I’m still going to be the ugly bitmap Yeah,
Don Mock 24:28
yeah. It’s how it’s a designer’s How are you going to squeeze this in and make it somehow fit in your your ad or your design? It doesn’t it doesn’t fit? Oh, you know? No. Now I have I have reversed a few right? I mean, so you’ve done the negative space. I’ve color coded them to try to make them fit in with you know, the brand, you know, and sometimes you can slap a little logo dead center in the middle but it is the static television. You know, it’s the you know, it’s that thing
Rob Broadfoot 25:00
It’s 80s like video game design, so weird. Yeah. So anyway, congratulations, big shout out to the QR code. We’re glad we’re glad to have you.
Don Mock 25:11
Welcome back to the party.
Rob Broadfoot 25:12
Welcome back to the party.
Don Mock 25:13
Yeah, that’s fantastic. All right, we should wrap it up on that note. That is absolutely hilarious. All right. Our next batch of business cards are just going to be QR codes.
Rob Broadfoot 25:22
That’s it. That’s all they’re gonna be.
Don Mock 25:24
All right, where can everybody find us Rob?
Rob Broadfoot 25:26
Yeah. On the socials Of course @mocktheagency and on the broader web at the www.mocktheagency.com We’ll see you there
Don Mock 25:38
Alright. Thanks everybody.
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