Ep. 125 – Vacation Highlights

Episode Transcript

Don Mock 0:19
All right. Episode 125 Rob, we’re back. It’s been so long since we’ve done one of these, I almost don’t know how we do this anymore.

Rob Broadfoot 0:28
We’ve been on break. We’ve taken a hiatus.

Don Mock 0:30
We’ve been on break because we’ve had some vacays, you know, the end of summer for us, vacations. Everybody got to squeeze them in, because the kids are back in school.

Rob Broadfoot 0:39
Yeah, the kids went back in July the 30th. insane

Don Mock 0:45
not for me, but, but not far behind that, but, but, yeah, you know how it is, you we got a good rhythm going podcast, and we’re doing this advertising design. It’s awesome. And then it’s, let me take a few vacations here and there. It’s like, Oh, yeah. How do we do podcasts? And then, you know, that kind of thing. So,

Rob Broadfoot 1:01
so here we are. We

Don Mock 1:02
got to shake the cobwebs loose.

Rob Broadfoot 1:03
125 Well, speaking of vacations, you just went on a nice vacation.

Don Mock 1:08
I did take a little vacation.

Rob Broadfoot 1:10
Tell your fans where you went.

Don Mock 1:11
I went to the magical world of New York City. New York City. Get a rope. You know what? Famous, famous advertising, little, little slang there, right? New York City, was that? Pace picante.

Rob Broadfoot 1:25
Pace picante…stuff’s made new

Don Mock 1:28
I was worried I wasn’t gonna remember what salsa it was for. So, yeah, New York City and Cape Cod. I never been up to the Cape, yeah. So visited some family up in the cape, and then also visited some friends in Connecticut,

Rob Broadfoot 1:42
wow, that was, you covered a lot of ground.

Don Mock 1:43
Covered a lot of ground up there. There was a little bit of plane strands and automobiles up and around. Well, we also hit a little Rhode Island. Drove through, you know? So we could call it four states.

Rob Broadfoot 1:54
I love me some Rhode Island, yeah, it’s a small state that Rhode Island. Well, teeny, the tiniest, teeny, yeah, in fact,

Don Mock 2:02
but New York, yeah? I mean, I think the, you know, the New York was probably the highlight of the trip. And here’s, here’s what I mean by that. We did the glamping on Governor’s Island, right? So for those, for those that don’t know, glamping is that sort of highfalutin, fancy camping, bougie camping, right? So you still have a tent, you know, you got mosquito nets and things like that. But inside your tent you have air conditioning. You have a chandelier, yeah, you know, yeah. I mean, you’ve got, you know, chested drawers and things like that. But, I mean, it’s, you know, it’s summer in New York. I mean, it’s hot in there, yeah, that air conditioner. I mean, it’s, it spits out some AC, but it’s doesn’t travel far, if that makes any sense,

Rob Broadfoot 2:41
you got to sit, move your bed over.

Don Mock 2:43
Oh, yeah. Oh, dude, I pulled the beanbag chair right over to the air condition. Took the top off

Rob Broadfoot 2:49
like a like a stamp. What

Don Mock 2:51
are those little splits? Yeah,

Rob Broadfoot 2:53
yeah, so.

Don Mock 2:55
But for those that I almost don’t want to put this out on the internet, because it was absolutely incredible, and I would totally do that again. It was super, super fun experience. Great dining. It’s like a little resort, and all these different types of tents all the way up to, like, full on, like, tiny houses, like, if you don’t want to, if you don’t want to go up in a tent, you can be, like, in a shipping container, like, fully enclosed, you know, no bugs and things like that, right? We were kind of in the safari style tents, because it was kind of fun, but full bar restaurant, you know, but it’s crazy, man. You’re like, outdoor shower, and it’s like, oh, there’s, you know, like, there’s, like, you know, all of lower Manhattan right there, you know, just right? I mean, the ferry ride is all of 30 seconds, yeah. And Governor Island, it looks like they’re doing a lot of renovation. They’re going to be doing a chapter of one of the New York colleges in there is gonna take us up some space. They’ve got tons of gardens, all these different things. You know, it’s really a, I’m gonna call it a Thursday, Friday, Saturday kind of kind of thing for New Yorkers. You know, where there are little parts of the island that have, like, restaurants. We were there on a Wednesday. Nothing’s open, right? Yeah. So it was amazing in that, hey, you wake up Thursday morning like no one’s on Governor’s Island. You’re just walking around, yeah, everybody, every non essential or non resort person, has to leave the island by 6pm it’s crazy. So while we were there, they were filming the whatever the follow up to Sex in the City is, you know the name of that? Yeah, there’s a spin off.

Rob Broadfoot 4:22
Is there a spin off?

Don Mock 4:23
Yeah, I forget what’s called. I think it’s called and, and just that I think

Rob Broadfoot 4:26
I don’t know,

Don Mock 4:27
I don’t know. So, yeah, there, I mean, there was a bunch of filming happening at the resort, so, you know, but incredible views. I mean, you’re like, wow, there’s the Statue of Liberty, there’s lower Manhattan, there’s, you know, and then killer bar, killer outdoor, sort of fire pits, you know, s’mores, just unbelievable views, and then this unbelievable restaurant, I mean, just like, fantastic, fantastic meal. So that was, it was absolutely insane.

Rob Broadfoot 4:51
How many people are at this resort,

Don Mock 4:52
like, how many tents are there? Not many…

Rob Broadfoot 4:57
a handful?

Don Mock 4:57
15, 20ish.

Rob Broadfoot 5:00
so it looks like an army barrack,

Don Mock 5:01
yeah, it does. It does, there was, what were we watching? Rachel and I were just watching something on TV, I think. Oh, it was the Netflix show, owning Manhattan. You know, have you seen that? The buying Manhattan, yeah, whatever,

Rob Broadfoot 5:15
selling Manhattan, buying Manhattan.

Don Mock 5:16
Sir hunt, the Ryan, Ryan, sir hunt. Does that ring a bell? that guy, yeah. So they have some flyover shots, you know, like, like, just B roll footage of, like, Oh, we’re zooming through New York or whatever. Well, they had one shot of lower Manhattan, and you can actually see the little compounds and everything in the show. Oh, my God, that’s hilarious. We were just there. So I think a lot of people don’t know it’s there and there, I think it does a lot of, like, corporate events and like, you know, yeah.

Rob Broadfoot 5:41
Team building.

Don Mock 5:41
yeah. Team building. Like, hey, everybody come here for the day. So

Rob Broadfoot 5:44
was it full?

Don Mock 5:46
No. So it was us, no. Again, midweek, you know, just regular old summertime, summertime, you know, midweek. I think there were maybe three other tents that were occupied. And then, yeah, the chef was doing a whole tasting pairing, getting ready for an event. They had, like, other event planners there, but like, Dude, we had, like, the whole place to ourselves. I mean, it was absolutely incredible. Fantastic concierge. I can’t give this place high enough rate, yeah. I mean, it was really, really fun. So I have no idea what this has to do with advertising, but it was a great, great trip. I guess it tied into advertising. When we went into the city, my son really wanted to go to Times Square.

Rob Broadfoot 6:23
Well, you kind of have to, I mean, right, yeah, right, a passage in a weird way. You got to go once.

Don Mock 6:28
Yeah, you got to go at least once. He has been to the city a few times, but has never been. He’s like, I want to go to Times Square. We’ve always been like, Oh, gross. Like, poo, poo.

Rob Broadfoot 6:36
I love walking through there.

Don Mock 6:37
So, so we stayed on the Lower East Side, and we’re like, you know what? You know, whatever. Let’s just walk up Broadway and we’ll just, you know, see what we see, you know, and go to Times Square. And so, yeah, we did it. And you think, you know the, I mean, we grew up average, you know, 80s, 90s and advertising, you know, Madison Avenue and New York, all that stuff, right? And when we came out of ad school, you know, it was still like,

Rob Broadfoot 6:59
New York was the hub.

Don Mock 7:00
New York was, was the, you know, all that good stuff, right? I don’t know. Do you feel like it still is like that anymore? Like, do you feel like Madison Avenue, New York, you know, capital of the advertising world, that kind of thing.

Rob Broadfoot 7:14
It’s not as glamorized as it once was. And I, while I think that, yeah, there are, there’s obviously a, still, a heavy presence of big global firms. I think it’s lost a little bit of the Don Draper, yeah, you know,

Don Mock 7:30
yeah. Well, I think that ties into what I was gonna say was like, yeah. It’s like, you get to Times Square, and you’re like, I mean, even, even curbs was like, okay, yeah. Like, you know, now it was 10,000 degrees in there.

Rob Broadfoot 7:43
Well, that, it’s different if it’s a nice fall day, like, then it’s okay.

Don Mock 7:48
We just walked like, 35 blocks

Rob Broadfoot 7:50
when you’re sweating bullets. you know 128 degrees outside.

Don Mock 7:53
And, dude, there’s another story there about Don mock sweating bullets. But yeah, I mean, it was, it was hot, it was hot. And then it’s, it’s the whole like, oh man, watch out for the the guys in costumes. They like a costume, you know they all want to come up Spider Man, yeah, get all the, yeah, all that stuff. Get your picture taken. And then they’re like, Okay now you have to Venmo me 10 bucks, or whatever it’s like, or how much money it’s like, No, thanks, dude, you know. So, so it’s like, yeah, hey, we’re at times. I mean, you know, TKTS is still there. If you’re a local you can go stand in line and get the good, you know, like, I mean, they’re still, you know, but it’s, it’s, it’s like, oh, the M&M store, oh, yeah, you know, Hershey’s store,

Rob Broadfoot 8:31
there might be a LEGO Store.

Don Mock 8:34
oh, I’m sure there’s a Legos there. It’s all that sort of bizarre commercialism, but it’s, but it’s not, I don’t know. I mean, it’s better than it was in the 80s in terms of, like, being disgusting and, you know, yeah, peep shows and all that good stuff. Don’t get me wrong. You know, I’m not super anti well, I mean, do you want to wait two hours for your olive garden, you know? Or, you know, the biggest Applebee’s, I think I’ve ever seen, right? A three, a three story Applebee’s, you know, it’s like,

Rob Broadfoot 8:58
maybe I’m weird, but I every time I’ve been to New York, I’ve walked through Times Square

Don Mock 9:03
every time? I think you are weird then

Rob Broadfoot 9:06
I think every time, just one, we’re not spending a whole lot of time there, just to watch the weirdos and just to see the scene like it’s just, it’s more ridiculous every time you go, each time you go, like it’s just, and just the whole, like, speaking of advertising, just the inundation of the screens. And it’s always been like that, but now it’s, oh, now we’ve got 3d and things are crawling off buildings and like,

Don Mock 9:31
yeah, yeah. We hung out there trying to, I was waiting for some type of cool effect billboard, you know, where it’s multi dimensional, where, yeah, the cat is falling, cats coming off of the bill, yeah, didn’t really see any of that. It was heavy movie promotion. You know, all movie, yeah, it’s like, twisters and Deadpool and Wolverine, like, just this movie, movie, movie, movie, movie, movie, which is interesting. And then some like, you know, insurance and Prudential, yeah, things like that, you know. I mean, it’s still cool. It still is a. Visual spectacle, for sure.

Rob Broadfoot 10:02
I mean, it is

Don Mock 10:02
I don’t, you know, for me, I don’t know that it’s necessarily as much of a like a destination. I got to go there and check it out, you know, that type of thing.

Rob Broadfoot 10:10
I like to do a stroll and just, yeah,

Don Mock 10:13
but New York is awesome, man. I love New York. I am, I am not a Manhattan Knight. I don’t even know if that’s a word, but like that. I mean, I enjoy it. And then it’s like, All right, yeah, let’s go on the train and get the hell out of here. You know. I mean, super fun. It’s super, you know, it’s,

Rob Broadfoot 10:26
Yeah I couldn’t live there

Don Mock 10:27
but it’s like, oh man, there, there is, you know, there’s, there’s a lot going on. I will say the The other highlight of being in the city was we finally walked the High Line, which was super, super cool. And that was really, really well done, you know? And it’s interesting that that, I think, was maybe a not so desirable part of town, right, that now, with Hudson Yards over there and the High Line, you know, it’s now, it’s like, oh, developers want to build Highline, you know what I mean, to utilize that, that piece of real estate, it was actually really interesting, so, and it was really, really cool. How, from a design perspective, fantastic infographics, fantastic way finding in terms of how to get on, how to get off, and then when you’re on there, right? You know, you’ve got the pedestrian portion, and then it’s got the gardens on both sides, right? Well, they have little signs everywhere. That’s a basically, it is kind of way possible saying, stay on the path and do not F with the vegetation. You know, it’s like, do not walk over here on there. Don’t touch this you know. And it’s, you know, I feel like, God. It feels like, every 50 feet, you see one of these signs. But it was so tastefully well done that you’re just like, oh yeah, I gotta stay out. Gotta stay on path, you know. And the whole aspect of like, oh, the honey bees are back. Like, is absolutely 100% legit. It was amazing. It was like, here I am in New York, Hudson Yards, all this crazy stuff is happening. But if you just go super, like, macro level, you’re like, Oh yeah, here’s all these amazing flowers, and there’s freaking honey bees everywhere, like, like, doing their thing. It was really, really, you know, there’s, there’s a children’s book, I think it’s called the curious garden that that sort of documents a little bit about that as well, but, but it really, that was a really fun, kind of unique experience. Yeah, that I really enjoyed that. So that was pretty fun, too. So yeah, other than that, I think from an advertising perspective on the rest of the trip, I did notice, you know, once you get out of New York and sort of that, that lower Connecticut and going up to the Cape and whatnot. You know, it’s really, there’s stretches of God. It’s not 95 I couldn’t tell you what road it was, but what I was noticeable where it’s like, oh, man, all the billboards are gone. Well, you’ve been at the Cape many, many times, you know? And you’ve got, what is it, six and 28 or something like that, going in and out where the bridge is. You remember that? I can’t remember.

Rob Broadfoot 12:39
I don’t remember.

Don Mock 12:39
Anyway, someone will fact check me and tell me I’m an idiot, but, but there is a stretch of Massachusetts and then into the cape where you’re like, you know, you’re driving 70 miles an hour on the freeway, and it’s like, Man, I haven’t seen a billboard in like half hour. Like this is almost bizarre, because, I mean, we’re, we’re city, right? We live in the city, right? You know? So we’re inundated with billboards all over Atlanta. You know, when I go back to San Francisco’s billboards everywhere. But although 280 out west doesn’t have a lot of billboards, but, you know, the bay shores, I mean, we’re just kind of used to big metropolitan areas, and then it’s like, oh, man, I’m just driving on this, yeah, freeway. But there’s no billboards, which I found really kind of interesting, you know, because there’s still commerce,

Rob Broadfoot 13:20
yeah. I was up and I spent a few days in Maine, and it was, I don’t know that I saw a single billboard in Maine. quiet, quiet place, yeah

Don Mock 13:30
You were up there for What Three, four days? How long were you there? Four days, four days,

Rob Broadfoot 13:33
four days. Yeah, I hadn’t really spent a whole lot of time up there. Had done a trip up there in high school, okay, but, man, that’s a beautiful place. Loved it. I’m a big lobster fan, as I guess our listeners probably don’t know, but, yeah,

Don Mock 13:47
I love me some lobster too.

Rob Broadfoot 13:48
New York is New York is fantastic. The last time I was there, it was,

Don Mock 13:53
well, you went this year, didn’t you?

Rob Broadfoot 13:54
Yeah, well, it was whenever the summit was, or the global summit was, was that? No, it wasn’t this year

Don Mock 14:00
It was last year?

Rob Broadfoot 14:01
I feel like it was last year.

Don Mock 14:02
Okay, last year. I don’t know, man, dude

Rob Broadfoot 14:05
anyways get trapped down in the district and like, oh, every street is blocked off. Our car dropped us off. Every street was blocked off. The rest of the family was going to do something else, and I needed to make it back to where we were staying So I ended up riding. It was pouring down rain.

Don Mock 14:21
Okay, this was.. and by Summit. You mean, like the UN was meeting or something.

Rob Broadfoot 14:24
Yeah I mean, everything was blocked off So I couldn’t get an I couldn’t get a car, I couldn’t get anything, yeah, so I had to grab, grab the city bike. Jumped on a city bike and rode, I don’t know, like, three and a half four miles back to where we were staying.

Don Mock 14:39
That’s awesome

Rob Broadfoot 14:39
in the pouring down rain in New York. And it was like, it was one of those. I was like, I absolutely love this. I have no idea where I am, don’t really know where I am going. I’m on some electric bike, yeah, riding around, it was great,

Don Mock 14:56
dude. I’m telling you, you walk up Broadway for 30 blocks. You got to watch those. Damn bikes, dude. I mean those things that take you out, it’s funny. And then we, did we take a car.. we grabbed a couple of Ubers here and there. Versus the subway, we did take the subway around town, but there, there’s definitely that, like, Oh, I gotta go from here to here. I don’t really know which subway

Rob Broadfoot 15:17
the subway is a whole Yeah.

Don Mock 15:18
So it’s like, all right, let me just jump in an Uber real quick. And my hot take coming out of there was, man, call it just how used to everybody is up there driving or whatever, like that. But it seemed more calm and relaxing driving in lower Manhattan than it ever has, almost compared to, like driving in Atlanta. so hot take, you know it’s, it’s safer there. I mean, they’re just used to interchanging and know how to do it, and how to go left and block the light and all the different things, right? And here everybody, you know, I don’t know it was just, it was kind of an interesting vibe. I was like, man, its safer to drive in Manhattan than it is to drive in Buckhead nowadays. You know what I mean, like, What in the world is going on there? You know, so funny,

Rob Broadfoot 15:57
could you live in New York?

Don Mock 15:59
Could I live in New York? I think that moment has passed. Yeah. I think that the time to live in New York, this is a personal opinion, is probably right out of school. When you don’t have stuff, you know what I mean? when you’re unencumbered with family and things, right,

Rob Broadfoot 16:14
like looking for a place to put,

Don Mock 16:16
yeah, yeah. And it’s like, you know, hey, just use all of your budget on a safe place for you to sleep at night, you know, like housing, you know, because you don’t really need anything else, you know, right? Dude, zero. I mean, dude, I have like, three teenagers like there’s no way.

Rob Broadfoot 16:32
Yeah, you can’t. You gotta do it when you’re out and about most of the time, it’s not a place where you spend a lot of time at home.

Don Mock 16:40
Yeah, exactly you just need a bed and a light switch, and you need to feel somewhat quasi safe when you, when you know, when you when you pass out

Rob Broadfoot 16:47
Or you just have to be Uber, Uber wealthy and you can afford a place. And, yeah, I couldn’t be there year round

Don Mock 16:53
Yeah, could you do it? I mean, could you live in New York?

Rob Broadfoot 16:55
I don’t think I could do it full time.

Don Mock 16:57
Okay, neither one of us could do it right now with the way our lives are. Fast forward. Call it 10-15, years. I’m making this up right now. No children are living in our houses anymore, you know. And you did have call it discretionary income to buy some type of cool whatever. Could you do it?

Rob Broadfoot 17:14
I don’t think, I think it’s a young man’s game, I think it’s a younger man’s game.

Don Mock 17:17
Yeah. I don’t think I could do it.

Rob Broadfoot 17:18
I mean, I love all the restaurants, and I love the culture, and I love the theater, and I love all the all the things, yeah, but

Don Mock 17:25
It’s a lot

Rob Broadfoot 17:25
It’s a lot Yeah. And I think the older you get, at least for me, it’s like, I want to slow down not speed up, yeah.

Don Mock 17:32
I think to echo that sentiment. I think when and if I ever move from Atlanta, I don’t think it would be to another city, you know, I think it would be more to a more… I don’t want to say rural, because I’m not going to live out in the stick in the country, like, I wouldn’t know what to do Yeah, but, like, I wouldn’t be moving from, you know, Atlanta to an even crazier metropolitan, yeah, if that makes any sense

Rob Broadfoot 17:56
I mean, I can see I will always travel to New York, you know? for weekends and go to restaurants and eat and do all, do all the things I would imagine.

Don Mock 18:07
Yeah, it’s a great place. It is. It is exciting and stimulating. It’s a lot of fun. It’s a lot of fun stuff. I think, you know, not a knock on the commercialized aspect of the world. But you know, the the power of the internet has made a lot of things that used to be special, not necessarily as special. And I think that New York is probably, or New York City is probably a victim of that as well. Like, you know, it’s, oh, I don’t have to go to this one unique shop that only exists in New York, that you can only get whatever XYZ thing there. Do you know what I mean? It’s like,

Rob Broadfoot 18:40
well, not only that, but even, even to bring it back to Times Square, like all the and, I mean, this lovingly, the lunatics that are in Times Square, the street performers and everything, all the awesome, cool, crazy stuff you see, yeah, now you just go on Tik Tok or wherever, and it’s, it’s there, So it’s not this mysterious wonderland of street talent and places like, yes. I mean, think you’re right. I think you’re right. I think it’s lost a little bit of that.

Don Mock 19:03
It’s still amazing, still amazing, don’t get me wrong, but, but, yeah, I don’t think I could live there

Rob Broadfoot 19:07
and legal marijuana. I will say.. wow

Don Mock 19:12
It’s probably 10:30 in the morning. It is just, just to recap a funny little anecdote. It’s probably 10:30 maybe 11 in the morning on a, you know, call it a Thursday, yeah, right, walking up Broadway, hey, let’s hit the CVS and grab a couple Gatorades, because it’s like 90 degrees and because you have the buildings, there’s no like wind, you know, there’s no like breeze, right? Ooh, it’s a little or fits in a little bit here, you know, let’s grab some Gatorades as we keep going. Like others, that dude just camped out right there, like one of these little like, just just blazing it up like nobody’s business, it was incredible. I was just like, Oh, my God, this is hilarious. Like, it’s not even lunchtime, man. This guy’s got the fattest blunt you’ve ever seen, just rocking it right right outside. CVS, and it’s like, it’s great.

We’ve both been to a lot of places, a lot of states where now cannabis is legal.

And we’ve talked on previous podcasts about working in the cannabis industry, you know, we’ve done packages.

Rob Broadfoot 20:10
It’s legal in a lot of places, but boy, are they proud of it. In New York, I mean, it’s loud and proud

Don Mock 20:16
Yeah, dude, we’re pushing the toddler stroller, you know? I mean, it’s a different it’s a different, it’s a different vibe, man. But it’s, I mean, it’s whatever did, whatever, you know, just everybody’s kind of busy doing their own thing in New York. That’s what’s kind of fun about it, to a certain extent.

Rob Broadfoot 20:31
Yeah, I love walking down the street and it’s like, I mean, within a span of one block, you see every single culture, every single

Don Mock 20:40
yeah, my son was like, Oh, do we have to walk? And I was like, yes, because you gotta walk. You gotta see what, you know. And it’s like, Oh, my God, here’s this crazy woman took all these pictures of, like, here’s this crazy graffiti, street art that’s on the sidewalk. Like, you’re not, you know, like, Oh, look at this crazy thing over here. Like, you just see all this wacky, crazy, awesome stuff. I mean, that’s part of the vibe. So which is super cool, and it is, you know, from a work perspective, it’s kind of invigorating. You know what? I mean? It’s like, oh, wow, there’s all these cool things happening all over the place, you know, you know, I’m the super dork that goes on vacation and then takes pictures of ads and other places. But, yeah, super fun, super fun. I know New York. You know Cape Cod, totally the opposite of New York. And then I don’t know Connecticut, kind of sandwiched in between.

Rob Broadfoot 21:27
I’m just trying to think, honestly, if… it’s gonna sound odd

Don Mock 21:30
If you’ve ever taken a photo of an ad on vacation?

Rob Broadfoot 21:33
No, I’m certain I have, but I was, I don’t know that I’ve ever been to the state of Connecticut.

Don Mock 21:40
really? Okay

Rob Broadfoot 21:41
I’m saying that out loud, and I’m trying to rack my brain. I’m not sure that I ever have

Don Mock 21:46
well, let me come at it from my perspective, if I didn’t have family there, why would you go

Rob Broadfoot 21:54
I’ve been to all the surrounding states I mean, I’ve been, yeah, I don’t know that I’ve

Don Mock 21:57
Yeah, well, my wife grew up there, and my in laws are still there, and there’s still a tremendous amount of family there. So it is a very easy launch pad to be there. And then, you know, MTA down into the city. I mean, you just, you literally hop out in Grand Central, and then, you know, you’re, you’re ready to go. So, I mean, it’s a, you know, that’s why I’ve been there, yeah, so many times. So, Connecticut, yeah, Connecticut, the Constitution, state,

Rob Broadfoot 22:19
yeah. There you go. All right. Well, there you go, yeah, Tales from vacation,

Don Mock 22:24
Tales from the end of summer vacay everybody.

Rob Broadfoot 22:27
And now we’re back. You will hear us more regularly here on our podcast.

Don Mock 22:31
Exactly, and where can the people find us when they’re not listening to our excellent voices?

Rob Broadfoot 22:35
When we’re not wandering around the streets of New York you can find us online at www.mocktheagency.com of course and across the socials we’re not hard to find @mocktheagency

Don Mock 22:44
Cool, cool. All right, talk to you next time. Thanks, everybody.